Dianne Brimble and me
Is it just me or is everyone praying for the Brimble family’s pain to be over?
I have followed the case of Redcliffe mother Dianne Brimble’s death on the floor of an economy-class cabin of the Pacific Sky cruise ship with horror and a bizarre sense of reflected humiliation.
I suspect I have a touch of the Dianne Brimbles – fun, fat, 40(ish) and insecure enough to be flattered by the attentions of men who don’t deserve me.
The police record of interviews with the “men of interest” in the case provides a chilling insight into what despicable men say when they think women aren’t listening.
One of these men, Leo Silvestri, told the police that Dianne Brimble’s death in his cabin ruined his holiday. He has admitted that on the morning in question, he woke to find Mrs Brimble dead on the floor, then showered and dressed her lifeless body.
Witnesses have told the inquest Mr Silvestri later joked with fellow passengers that he considered throwing her body overboard.
Mr Silvestri told police that the night before Mrs Brimble died, she allegedly walked up to his table and said: "Hi, how are you going?”
"It’s like, Hi, see you. I just brushed her off; I didn’t want to speak to her ... breath, yuck, ugly dog, just go talk to someone else. Ring the RSPCA," Silvestri said.
Later in the interview, Mr Silvestri repeatedly referred to Mrs Brimble as the "thing" and called her the "ugly dog".
He prided himself on the fact he didn’t “talk to anything over 60 kilos”.
Yesterday, Mark Wilhelm, the man who slept with Dianne Brimble and allegedly gave her the date rape drug fantasy the night she died, refused to answer questions at the inquest on the basis he might incriminate himself.
Dianne Brimble’s long-suffering family, sitting patiently in the courtroom, wasn’t completely spared from further hurt, however. In secretly taped telephone conversations played to the court, Mark Wilhelm is heard abusing and blaming Mrs Brimble, and painting himself as "the real victim here".
What makes me feel sickest about this story is that I think I might know these guys. Not personally, just in general. I might have even been out with one. And while they might be rare, I have absolutely no doubt they drink at your local pub.
By the way, my husband John didn’t want me to include that last paragraph. He said it made me sound like a man-hater, something he knows I could never be. But I told him I had to include it.
It’s probably the point of the article. It’s blokes like Silvestri and Wilhelm who judge women so harshly and treat them so badly that make girls like Dianne and Caroline so tragically, sometimes fatally, vulnerable.
Someone raised these men. Someone taught them that women don’t matter, that other people’s feelings and safety are irrelevant.
It makes me wonder about how John and I are raising our son.
So, for the sake of Dianne Brimble, and every fat, friendly girl who just wants someone to like her,
I want you to take a look around today. Look at your sons, and think about what their values are.
Are your boys kind? Are they generous of spirit? Do they think about the needs of other people? Are they brave? Do you trust them to do the right thing?
Would your son stand up for a drunken girl being harassed or degraded by a group of older blokes? Would he drag Dianne Brimble out of a ship’s cabin and get her help?
Look at your son.
Ask yourself if he’s that kind of boy.
Because that’s the type of man we need him to be.


7 Comments:
i had not thought of the Dianne Brimble case in this light. Up till now I had thought of it as one womans decision to put herself in this circumstance. I have sons. I would put my boys in the category of "pull her out of a bad situation" people, but I know young men ( and older) who would not. As parents we must teach our boys respect - of themselves and others - and our girls respect(as above) and self confidence.
I understand a "Not size 10's" need for acceptance. We must teach our boys & girls that being a waif does not make you a good human being
Good on you Caroline - you were brave and articulate in identifying with Dianne's fatal need for approval. These men displayed disgusting behaviour and their attitudes after the event chill me to the bones. I sincerely hope justice is done and that the callous attitude of the perpetrators adds to the severity of the sentence.
teaching our sons values & respect for woman is one of the most important things parents can do - of course fathers lead by example too. I am proud to say my 11 yr old son disikes discrimination of any type. These men must be punished.Australia needs to stand up & take crimes against woman far more seriously as a recent number of court case have shown not too.
Decades ago, after my own brutal rape, I wouldn't keep silent - and one of my male friends said "why must you keep talking about something you know makes us all feel so uncomfortable?" and my reply was "so that if you ever, ever, ever find yourself thinking that maybe a woman asked for it, or deserved it, or meant yes when she said no, you'd stop and remember that she has brothers, fathers, friends who would feel about you the way you feel about my rapist - and want to kill you. Just remember, okay?"
Someone needs to tell that to every boy at some point.
But I think your son will grow up just fine.
As man, I thank you for your article and believe you wrote with insight and care. Diane Brimble deserves this.
I have felt sick and ashamed of men because of this. But the truth is I have felt more sick and ashamed of myself.
Not that I have done anything remotely like this, but I have feel this way because I have recognised I have had a bit Mark Wilhelm and Leo Silvestri in me a a younger man: selfish, self-absorbed and tragically ignorant. Ignorant of the beauty of a special person, because she superficially did not come in the surface package, that fulfilled my unrestrained, immature and totally unrealistic and disconnected lusts.
We can so relate to the Diane Brimble you painted, because we have all known someone like her and they to deserved better from us.
We can see Dianes self evident incredible worth and beauty, unfortunately for her it is too late. But for the rest of the Diane Brimbles out there; no it is not too late, to have one less predatory, self obsessed, delusional and equally insecure Mark Wilhelm or Leo Silvestri out there. Hopefully the shocking details of this case, may bring that sought of reflection.
You asked, "Is it just me or is everyone praying for the Brimble family’s pain to be over?" No it isn't only just you and we are praying; but not only peace for her family, but forgiveness for ourselves; before it is too late.
Thank you again for this. From a man in his forties, insecure and a little over weight and in need of the same respect and love that Dianne should have been shown.
As man, I thank you for your article and believe you wrote with insight and care. Diane Brimble deserves this.
I have felt sick and ashamed of men because of this. But the truth is I have felt more sick and ashamed of myself.
Not that I have done anything remotely like this, but I feel this way because I have recognised a bit Mark Wilhelm and Leo Silvestri in me, as a younger man: selfish, self absorbed and tragically ignorant. Ignorant of the beauty of a special person, because she superficially did not come in the surface package, that fulfilled my unrestrained, immature and totally unrealistic and disconnected lusts.
We can so relate to the Diane Brimble you painted because we have all known someone like her and they deserve better from us.
We can see Diane’s self evident immeasurable worth and beauty; unfortunately for her it is too late. But for the rest of the Diane Brimbles out there; no it is not too late, to have one less predatory, self obsessed, delusional and equally insecure Mark Wilhelm or Leo Silvestri out there. Hopefully the shocking details of this case may bring that sought of reflection.
You asked, "Is it just me or is everyone praying for the Brimble family’s pain to be over?"
No it isn't only just you and we are praying; but not only peace for her family, but forgiveness for ourselves, before it is too late.
Thank you again for this. From a man in his forties, insecure and a little over weight and in need of the same respect and love that Dianne should have been shown.
Wow... the feminist diatribe.
Dianne Brimble? Where to start... Dianne Brimble put herself in that situation, she was out to have fun and she got more than fun - death! Unfortunately, for whatever reasons... bad decision making, disgusting male company, alcohol, GHB, temptation, a moment of dumb stupidity, etc Dianne decided that her two ex partners and her children were less important than going on a fun cruise where she could 'pick up'. Well, so she was overweight, shy and in her 40s. Simple... she could have dieted, lost weight, taken a course in assertiveness training and as for her age, she could have accepted it gracefully. As for Dianne going to that cabin intoxicated and then voluntarily taking GHB... stupid!
Now we all know that Dianne Brimble is gullible and dumb when it comes to choosing male partners for 'fun'. Her choice is deadly.
As for teaching our boys/sons for respect for themselves, women and others...okay?!
What about teaching our girls/daughters respect for themselves, men and others? Yes, somehow Dianne Brimble lost her self respect that day. She paid a high price. No refund.
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