Sexism! Alive and Well....
Is it just me or does everyone love a little heated debate?
We’ve all been tutt tutting this week about Muslim Sheiks and their intolerable views on women. And I couldn't agree more.
But this morning, the debate got even more interesting today.
The ANGLICAN archbishop of Perth Roger Herft has warned all religions to get their own affairs in order, before they start throwing stones at Muslims.
Roger Herft, has compared Sydney diocese's refusal to ordain women priests with some Islam thinking that repressed women.
In fact he says MOST religions treat women as second-class citizens.
I’ve told you before I’m Catholic. And I’ve never wanted to be a priest, but over the years it has given me some pause for thought that the church won’t entertain the idea of women priests, because you can’t help but draw the conclusion that someone somewhere thinks women aren’t as good as men or couldn’t represent God as effectively as a man.
Hard for a modern girl to swallow.
Now I know the argument that Jesus chose 12 male disciples and therefore priests are men, no discussion to be entered into…
BUT! In other biblical stories when we're making them relevant for today, the point is often made that Jesus made decisions that were relevant for the time in which he lived. Due to societies expectations, 2000 years ago, there is no way that a woman could have followed a young single man in prayer (not without being stoned to death...obviously)
Therefore the claim that Jesus 'didn’t want' female priests is wrong…he just couldn’t do it …
But back to modern day sexism...I know some fundamentalist christian religions still preach that the man is still the head of the household and his wife must defer to his judgement.
SO, as ever, before we go judging Muslims for their treatment of women, maybe we should go back to Jesus and 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone…"
From: Michael Griffiths Sent: Friday, 3 November 2006 8:48 AMTo: Caroline HutchinsonSubject: Religion v Society
Hi Caroline,
Is it just me or Am I on my own or, does everyone believe that the Mufti are hiding behind the Koran to push their antisocial behaviour?
As you said, the “white” clerics still advocate the omission of women in the clergy: However, I don’t believe there is anything in the Bible or the Koran that suggests women are inferior to men. In general, men revere their women in society, so I can’t understand why Muslims, (or is it Arabs?) aren’t required to control their primal urges? I must admit that I have absolutely no faith in organised religion as a result of their actions right throughout the ages. I have never had blind faith in anything and I certainly could not heed dictums from any religion that crossed the bounds of “normal” social behaviour.
Regards, Michael
We’ve all been tutt tutting this week about Muslim Sheiks and their intolerable views on women. And I couldn't agree more.
But this morning, the debate got even more interesting today.
The ANGLICAN archbishop of Perth Roger Herft has warned all religions to get their own affairs in order, before they start throwing stones at Muslims.
Roger Herft, has compared Sydney diocese's refusal to ordain women priests with some Islam thinking that repressed women.
In fact he says MOST religions treat women as second-class citizens.
I’ve told you before I’m Catholic. And I’ve never wanted to be a priest, but over the years it has given me some pause for thought that the church won’t entertain the idea of women priests, because you can’t help but draw the conclusion that someone somewhere thinks women aren’t as good as men or couldn’t represent God as effectively as a man.
Hard for a modern girl to swallow.
Now I know the argument that Jesus chose 12 male disciples and therefore priests are men, no discussion to be entered into…
BUT! In other biblical stories when we're making them relevant for today, the point is often made that Jesus made decisions that were relevant for the time in which he lived. Due to societies expectations, 2000 years ago, there is no way that a woman could have followed a young single man in prayer (not without being stoned to death...obviously)
Therefore the claim that Jesus 'didn’t want' female priests is wrong…he just couldn’t do it …
But back to modern day sexism...I know some fundamentalist christian religions still preach that the man is still the head of the household and his wife must defer to his judgement.
SO, as ever, before we go judging Muslims for their treatment of women, maybe we should go back to Jesus and 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone…"
From: Michael Griffiths Sent: Friday, 3 November 2006 8:48 AMTo: Caroline HutchinsonSubject: Religion v Society
Hi Caroline,
Is it just me or Am I on my own or, does everyone believe that the Mufti are hiding behind the Koran to push their antisocial behaviour?
As you said, the “white” clerics still advocate the omission of women in the clergy: However, I don’t believe there is anything in the Bible or the Koran that suggests women are inferior to men. In general, men revere their women in society, so I can’t understand why Muslims, (or is it Arabs?) aren’t required to control their primal urges? I must admit that I have absolutely no faith in organised religion as a result of their actions right throughout the ages. I have never had blind faith in anything and I certainly could not heed dictums from any religion that crossed the bounds of “normal” social behaviour.
Regards, Michael
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